What is a soul?
Eucharistic Eukaryotes
God wants relationships, not religion.
Irreducible Complexity - Response to comments
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Determinist,
"Atoms are like soap bubbles..." - Clever
What are "vortices"? I assume the word is in the plural form (of vortex?). I tried to research the term and I did not get very far. L
I realize that when we are talking about a flagellum motor that we are way past the atomic level however, the reason why I suggest something at the sub-atomic level or beyond is because classical physics goes out the window when we start talking about point particles like electrons. There is a complexity there that could very well lend itself to understanding self-organizing structures or even at even higher levels such how the brain functions and how people interact with one another.
Ensign,
"Consider this: an idea that I've had for the better part of 11 years is that all interactivity in the universe--from the subatomic level to the gravitational interactions between galactic clusters--is mirrored by human behavior. While nobody outside of the individual can explain a single persons motives, it is relatively easy to predict and explain how people (and subsequently friends, cliques, ethnic/religious groups, nations, etc...) will interact with each other. How do you feel about this?"
My first thought is Astrology reversely engineered to predict cosmic events based on what I eat for breakfast (haha). Individuals are not as predictable as they are when observed in as system. At higher levels of organization, statistically based predications can be made with increasing accuracy. Does the universe mirror our behavior, or do we mirror the behavior of the universe? Consider that we are not only part of the universe but made up of the very things we are attempting to observe.
For example, assuming that you have a normal body, if you measure the distance from the tip of your finger to the first joint-line and compare it to the distance from the first joint-line to your second join-line you will get the Golden ratio (or close to it). If you continue to do this with the second joint-line to the third and so on and compare these measurements to the distances of the solar planets from the sun, you will notice that it is a very close match. Is there any surprise then that the proportions of the Temple of Solomon also match that of the solar system if you consider that the means of measurement was the hand and cubit? Perhaps not, but I still find it to be quite Divine.
Other thoughts:
- I can post a more detailed explanation about the proportions if you’re interested.
Irreducible Complexity
Then the idea of Cymatics occurred to me and it offered itself as a probable explanation. So how could something complex come from something relatively simple? First take a look at Cymatics in action, and then listen to one of its proponents. Now, I do not outright agree with everything stated nor do I blindly propose that this is the answer to how God spoke the universe into existence. However, I certainly do propose that some similar mechanism may be at work. These patterns are created because of the natural path of least resistance. As such I am interested in identifying what design can be created by using the lowest frequency possible, then using a scale of pitch where the intervals strictly following the Golden Ratio. I am also interested in other energy waves or fields (e.g. electromagnetic). If anyone can find some correlation between all this and fractals, I’m interested.
The Sun of God
There are many stars in the universe but there is only one that gives the energy needed for life, which we call our sun. Although only a small fraction of the sun's massive energy actually makes it to our humble planet, it is sufficient to sustain all the organisms that live here. The following is an over-simplified model of the flow of energy commonly known as the food chain:
1. Through photosynthesis, plants convert energy from the sun into storable biochemical energy known as sugars.
2. These sugars are consumed by various organisms.
3. These same plant eating creatures which contain protein and fat are consumed by various prey.
As energy flows through the food chain a perfect one to one conversion does not occur because most of the energy is lost as heat (2nd law of thermodynamics). As a result, life on earth depends on a continuous flow of energy from the sun to sustain all living organisms at both the bottom and top of the food chains. This flow of energy is rather linear, however, some of the energy is recycled back through the food chain. When an organism such as a lion dies, vultures, insects, and bacteria come along and scavenge the carcass for whatever food energy remains.
If I may now relate this line of thought abstractly, God's spiritual energy flows through us in much the same way. Although some of His energy is recycled as we serve one another, were it not for His continuous and massive energy that nourishes our souls, Humanity would surely perish. Surely, humanity would stand to benefit from striving to become superconductors of this Divine energy. Moreover, God did much more than put a star in our heavens that it may give us life; He also sent His Son to dwell on earth.
Ones & Zeros
The scientific method
The sum of my observations of people of various religious backgrounds is that the humanity at large follows a process analogous to the scientific method. Those who understand the history of religion and science can surely appreciate the irony of this statement however, I am convinced that our spirituality is a follows a set of scientific rules and that theses rules, if better understood, would help alleviate much of the frustration felt in our trial and error approach to know God.
"Scientific method refers to bodies of techniques for investigating phenomena, acquiring new knowledge, or correcting and integrating previous knowledge. To be termed scientific, a method of inquiry must be based on gathering observable, empirical and measurable evidence subject to specific principles of reasoning.[1] A scientific method consists of the collection of data through observation and experimentation, and the formulation and testing of hypotheses."
Wikipedia offers us a linearized, pragmatic scheme as a guideline (which I have slightly modified):
1. Define the question
2. Gather information and resources (observe)
3. Form hypothesis
4. Perform experiment
5a. Collect data
5b. Analyze data
5c. Interpret data and draw conclusions that serve as a starting point for new hypothesis
6. Publish results
7. Retest (frequently done by other scientists)
In religious terms I offer up a parallel:
1. Desire
2. Seek
3. Hope
4. Faith
5a. Experience
5b. Understanding
5c. Wisdom
6. Testimony
7. Repeat as desired
The fundamental difference is that the soul is the recording instrument. As we have no present means to extract this information directly from a person's soul we must rely on their testimony. Arguably, data from scientific experiments are more reliable as they are not subject to misinterpretations, exageration or lies; or are they? Is this not the importance of retesting a published scientific conclusion? If the experiment is reproduced with the exact specifications of the origional it should produce the same results and I submit the same holds true to spiritual matters.
If one man plants a seed and tends for it and another man goes and does the same does it garantee that either seed will grow? Consider that if a man says, "Plant this seed for it is good," and it is done to no avail what are the possible reasons why the seed did not grow? The same reasons could be aplied to why religion does not work the way people say it does. I submit that those who frequently experience God's joy in their life is the direct result of understanding this process to some degree or another.
